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In those early days, Google lived at google.stanford.edu, and Brin and Page were convinced it should be a nonprofit and advertising free. "We expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers," they wrote. "The better the search engine is, the fewer advertisements will be needed for the consumer to find what they want..."

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"We believe the issue of advertising causes enough mixed incentives that it is crucial to have a competitive search engine that is transparent and in the academic realm."

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Found the source (from a Google search, no less):

"The Filter Bubble: How the New Personalized Web Is Changing What We Read and How We Think" by Eli Pariser

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@faoluin *puts $10 bill in google's bra* how about now

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@faoluin How far the idealism has fallen

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@madargon @djsumdog This "fall of idealism" is extremely true of YouTube too. They used to be a platform for independent creators posting funny crap from their parents' basement, and people used to go to escape from TV. Now YouTube wants to become the crapsaccharine hell that TV was, and indie creators can't get any footing if they're not already established or in bed with the establishment.

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@faoluin @madargon It鈥檚 been the same for every medium from news print to radio. Human Lobotomy did a great video on this over a decade ago when talking about network neutrality:

https://invidious.sumit.im/watch?v=66PbSzwnLes

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@djsumdog @madargon This is incredible. It's not (necessarily) the phone companies who are in control, but otherwise its predictions were eerily accurate.

It painted a grim picture in 2007, and things have only gotten *worse*.

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@faoluin @madargon @djsumdog youtube was originally supposed to be a dating site, so i'm not sure that really counts as a fall of idealism. it's inarguable that it's become worse for everyone over the years though.

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@faoluin *assuming Matrix' Trinity voice* That was a long time ago.

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@faoluin

C'茅tait tr猫s choupinou !

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@benoitb "choupinou", est-ce similaire au "enfantin"? Mon fran莽ais est tr猫s rouill茅.

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@faoluin
Kawai ? Mignonet ?

Quelle langue est moins ou pas rouill茅e ?

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@benoitb Juste anglais, malheureusement :blobfoxmelt:

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I'm not that confortable with English, but I guess that my comment could have been simply : "so cute!"

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@faoluin > 鈥淲e expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers鈥

Well, they weren鈥檛 wrong there. The only problem is that the company they founded went on to be a prime example of that.

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@seanking Pretty much. Google (and the internet at large, under their influence) is no longer purposed to tell you things. Its purpose is to sell you things.

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@faoluin Indeed. I think Brin and Page were right to think Google should've been a non-profit. If it had gone with that plan and sticked to it, I think the way they would be perceived by folks today would be very different.

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@seanking @faoluin I didn鈥檛 realize, until looking them up today, that they鈥檝e disappeared from the public realm. It seems like they still own a substantial interest in Alphabet. I wonder how they feel about the current era we鈥檙e in. Would their views be heresy? Would they rhyme with those of people like Larry Sanger and Brendan Eich? or would they be full onboard with Dorsey and Bezos?

@likho Not sure of the original source. A friend linked it on IRC through Imgur. imgur.com/fjqdCZz

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@faoluin daaaamn, that didn't age well

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@amolith It's in the comments above. "The Filter Bubble" by Eli Pariser. Found it via Google Books, lol.

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@faoluin hm I don't think that post has federated over to my instance :blobfoxthink: but thank you! I found it and will hopefully start it sometime in the next couple of weeks :blobfox:

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@faoluin What's the source for this?

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@Ninmi "The Filter Bubble" by Eli Pariser. Didn't find it until after this blew up.

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@faoluin Eric Schmidt opposed the creation of Google Chrome, too. I seem to recall he thought it would be unfair competition or something, but I can't find a source for that now

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@faoluin and then they grew up and realized they had to pay rent somehow

and by the time they had enough social clout to abolish capitalism it was too late

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@WizardOfDocs @faoluin waiting on old jimmy wales to realize this wikipedia nonsense won't pay rent

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@heatherhorns @faoluin he's been begposting for a long as I've known him; maybe what he needs is a Patreon

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@faoluin Good thread. I have been slowly de-googling but dang they are in so many places... I don't think I can entirely.

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@privilegejunkie Yeah... I'm still stuck with email and maps, unfortunately.

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