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Brave is showing up in my newsfeeds again, so

Periodic reminder that Brendan Eich, the CEO of Brave Software, is a homophobe who donates to anti-LGBT organizations.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't use the browser. But you should probably be wary of any monetization attempts, since we know where that money will go.

@SwooshyCueb on that topic, suggestions for any well-maintained non-shit chrome forks?

@JennyFluff I use Opera on Android. There's ungoogled chromium, but I don't know if there are readily available windows builds.

@SwooshyCueb I should have specified, I'm on manjaro (arch flavour) by the way

@JennyFluff oh sweet, I'm considering switching over to manjaro on my home pc

@SwooshyCueb @JennyFluff there are, at least in the AUR. i use it when qutebrowser isn't sufficient

@scanlime I learned a while back not to tell people what software to use if they haven't asked

@SwooshyCueb well, of course, it is very google friendly and privacy averse by nature and design. Plus the ads and monotization. Everyone should just stay tfa from it.
"Who's internet??"
"OUR internet!!"
"Who's internet??"
"OUR internet!!"
:-)

@SwooshyCueb I thought it was also closed source too? Which would be reason enough not to use it, on top of it being founded by a homophobe.

@SwooshyCueb there was also that weird initiative where they were collecting donations on behalf of creators without telling them.

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1

@trechnex @SwooshyCueb Weren't they also blocking ads and inserting their own ads instead? It's one thing to block ads on behalf of the user, but quite another to insert your own ads beside someone else's content to divert revenue to yourself. They're essentially trying to blackmail content creators.

@freakazoid @SwooshyCueb that is the entire raison d'etre behind their browser.

They replace "annoying" ads with their ads, then (theoretically) share the revenue with content creators.

In practise, creators don't get notified unless they register.

@trechnex @SwooshyCueb Thing is, while I feel the user has the right to block ads because it's their computer, a browser vendor has no right whatsoever to be making money inserting their own ads in that space. I hope they get their pants sued off.

@SwooshyCueb @trechnex And what even is there to fund? Google is doing nearly all of the work to build the browser. And there are already effective, free adblockers. So they're just parasites. And frankly when I hear someone uses Brave any respect I might have had for them goes right out the window. Though often I'm unsurprised because they're exactly the kind of person I would expect to do that.

@freakazoid @trechnex @SwooshyCueb

No, they are providing a way to fund content creators without Google spying network. I'm currently funding my favorite YouTube channel by just browsing.

@SwooshyCueb You know, I somehow forgot about that! Thanks for the reminder.

(I never used it anyway because I don't like Chromium. :P Tried it once for an hour or two, went back to Firefox. Plus the weird cryptocurrency thing.)

@SwooshyCueb @brainblasted and if that isn’t enough (it should be), you also cannot opt out of “BAT”, Brave’s “currency” for content creators: bitsonline.com/brave-browser-b

tl;dr Brave will solicit donations on your behalf, using your original content, if you want it or not. And there’s no way to tell Brave to stay clear of it. And yes, that is completely ridiculous

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I saw Brave doing an IAmA in Reddit few days ago. They're definitely trying to make a come back.

@alexl @SwooshyCueb It's not fake news.

Brendan Eich's contributions are well documented by many major news sites.

There's a detailed page @ geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Br which cites numerous sources, all with links to verify.

@garrett @alexl @SwooshyCueb

It's fake news because you can't prove those are homophobic organizations. I had no doubt you don't even think those could be tags assigned to slander.

@alexl @SwooshyCueb Prop 8 in California was some of the most obvious anti-LGBT legislation possible. It was about defining marriage as being between *only* a man and woman.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_C

Brendan Eich donated money in favor of that bill. It's on record.

projects.latimes.com/prop8/don

While Brendan might or might not personally attack people for their way of life, He definitely donates against them, made clear by the prop 8 donation, among other similar donations.

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